Who will offer the first AI A380?

[benclark]

Guess you haven't seen EVAI's models lately, they really do show what can be done with a single bitmap and that 2700 poly target was when computers were less powerful, these days 3500 is more realistic imho so getting below that is awesome, EVAI haven't let us down yet, IF they choose to make an A380 you can expect all the normal features I'm sure with no compromises such as extra bitmaps or higher poly counts!

[CYUL]

I don't think any serious modeler would go through all the effort needed to make a great A380 untill it actually enters service. By then, EvolveAI will either have many, many more models out, or dissapear the Aardvark way.

[dfreed]

Originally Posted by CYUL

I don't think any serious modeler would go through all the effort needed to make a great A380 untill it actually enters service. By then, EvolveAI will either have many, many more models out, or dissapear the Aardvark way.

EIS is January 2007. I doubt EVAI will have "many, many more models out" in the next nine months or that they will go under.

[benclark]

Well until it enters service yes no modeller should even think about making an accurate model of it since nothing will be finalised till then. By then yes EVAI will no doubt of released a flurry of other models as will some other groups can't say who on pain of death but they're looking awesome!

[Boback]

There's always the so accurate and frame rate friendly (not to mention the most amazing paintkit and FDE) Mike Stone model

[djc]

To Break everybody's heart of having a low poly A380....

You will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, manage to model an AI A380 that actually looks like and A380 with less then 4000 polygons, i think you would do good to get it below 5000.

[Andy_B]

I think the only solution would be to make a flat 2D box with a picture of an A380 stuck on it. Who cares right? It's only a simulator.

[Burrito]

guys, you have it all wrong...much similar to the PAI Airbus family offered in v2 packages, the cockpit will be transparent, the wheels will be chromed, the gear bay doors will be missing, and the plane will rocket off at 340 kts.

It will also have the turning radius of a light Cessna.

[kaese2002]

me! LOOOL

http://home.arcor.de/eddm/ai380.wmv

[flanker]

Question : Can I suggest an AIA special come back to criticize some of those *possible* projects started for fun ?

A Missing AI model in FS. Maybe Elvis will expand its E3 Sentries in civil versions of the StratoJet


Just to force some modelers to speed up things...


The VERY FIRST B767-300LR


Love this one!! Using Aardvark-like mapping


For FUN!!!


An inexistent aircraft in the WHOLE FS UNIVERSE, AI or UI :
the Boeing 747-200 with special Pratt & Withney Naceles
Using Aardvark-like mapping


The end of the line - also the main purpose of this thread..!?



The question is : Fake or true projects ? I dunno. All I want to say is that AIA is just the best AI Factory ever! The what makes the difference is a team that releases projects (like AIA) besides a stupid guy that post screenees without releasing anything (like who ?)

Bye AIA.

[djc]

Which modellers need to hurry up? And when do you intend on releasing that A380 as i need one real soon

[pcbroken]

Yep. I may suggest using more simple wheels. Such detail is not required on AI models.

[CYUL]

@ Flanker: Nice models! Where do you find the images to build from?

[flanker]

Hello again!

@ CYUL
In fact, beside beeing a flightsimmer/modeler/everything you want, I am first an Aircraft LOVER, and started to collect informations about aircrafts since I was 3 years old til today (I'm 25). So, let's say that I carried infos from books, personal experiences, photos, videos... And imagine the pleasure when I discoverd computers... and later with a scanner and Internet... I don't known how to be a "normal person" that doesn't like airplanes very much, so I can not explain how and why I have the information I need about a particular aircraft, and not someone else.

See :
An unknown aircraft : Aerospatiale SN601 Corvette 100


I wanted a better looking model than Dee's


But I can say that I like modern aircrafts


ie those that still flying


and the day I discovered AI Traffic in FS, I decided to fill my virtual skies with as many DIFFERENT models as possible...


The problem is that I can't build myself all the models


While there are AI models that I don't like very much...


And after loosing almost ALL my AI designs, I've decided to CONTINUE modeling anyway...


...til the day it will be enough to move on something else...


So to answer your question, what can I say !?
Google, libraries (try all of them in several countries, I tried Paris, Antananarivo, Singapore...) Books (I have hundreds of books @ home) ACM, Collector toys, Manufacturers, Airshows, Newspapers, Holidays (when I take the plane to go somewhere else...) ... and many more ways to get documents...

hope this helps... but as far as I know, the web is the quickest way, but also the dirtyest.

Carl

[flanker]

@ pcbroken

I get this advice many many times. I know this is a must have for AI, and if - I PRECISE IF - I finish a model and release it for the FS community, be sure the tires will be flat (on at least one model variation).

Now for my part (and precisely for ALL the models I plan to use on my computer ONLY) I will keep those rouded tires on all my LOD 1 & 2. That means, if I release the corresponding model, the official public AI will start with the actual LOD 3... and so on for all AI from me... if any...

But I sincerly hope that a day, I'll release one model or two...

Carl

[flanker]

@ djc
Hello!

"soon" is a relative word. But even "relative or not", I think that "soon" is not a word that is applicable to ANY of my projects. As I said, I build for fun according to my feelings and my taste... Maybe the A380 has an advantage, as the First flight is scheduled next year, and I need myself to populate LFBO with those birds now...

But, actually, I also said that I moved on scenery modeling, so if a model has my favour, it's principally because I need it in the traffic that fills my scenery. ie the CASA CN235, the SN601, and perhaps the ATR and the HS748, if PAI dare to ask me to "NOT UPLOAD PAI REPEINTS ANYWHERE ELSE THAN PAI"...
It seems that PAI has become ill this days so, perhaps, finally, it could be a good Idea to try to update PAI exclusive models with new ones... IMHO

Carl

[David R]

I gotta ask, why post shots showing nothing more that the background images? That certainly isn't showcasing modeling skill or anything else except perhaps a tendency towards self-promotion.

David R

[flanker]

Hello.

No, in fact, I just post screenees as this is a way to get AI modelers to provide better efforts in making good AI models, imho. Example, the A320 was a good one, and EVAI has managed to get a VERY nice looking A320X. I may be wrong, but I personnaly think that posting screenes of parallel projects can increase the quality of a model. What about if a possible project of mine is an A318. Will it force EVAI to manage to get a PERFECT A318 ? I think!

I remember also the FSP B744v3 that has flexing wings, and even if there are many parts of that model I don't like (especially the difference in details between some parts and others), I use it anyway on some liveries just because some liveries needs the eye candy stuffs missing on AIA models (wing plant, flexing wing...). Remember, FSP has removed those flexing wings on B777 series, but why not on the B774v3 ? I think it's because of persons like me (and that was the what I needed)

I am 3000% sure that there are many talented modelers working on several aircrafts including the ones I'm trying to build, here and there, but they are hiding somewhere. One more time, I may be wrong, but showing screenes of starting projects is a way to reveal the competitive spirit of those hiding modelers, to invite them to show us their skills

I'm sorry if the what I do is a sort of manipulation, but I think it's the same thing as asking everyday "when when and when...".

And last of all, I'm sorry to say that even if I try to deny it, I stupidly feel encouraged to continue a project when I see that there are a lot of people interrested in. It's a sort of empiric medicine to help me to keep the rythm, instead of letting a project die.

Sorry if I look like a sarcastic and pretendeous person, that is not the what I want to look like. But if it's the case ... sorry.

AIA is gone, so who lasts ? HT has moved on the payware side, FM is somewhere (?), EVAI seems to represent the equivalent of AIA, FSP may update some Airbuses and PAI is in the blackout...

By posting screenes, I understood that the A380 is the one that is interresting now. Could I have a better guess by asking a simple question without any shot ? I don't think.

However, it was a sort of childish attitude from me to post some "empty" screenees, so I am really sorry. I'll try to do better next time...

Carl

[David R]

I've been wanting to padlock this thread from the day it started ... Now I get the chance, just as we shut the forums down to further posting.

David R